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I love God with all of my heart, and I have sworn to live the rest of my life for him, for he has brought me through so many hard trials and tribulations. I owe my whole life, and everything that I am to him.

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We can relabel faith in many ways, the actually definition varies from person to person. What I would like to know is this:

1. How YOU define faith and
2. Why is faith preferable over rational inquiry and evidence?

Somebody please respond to this, I really want to know.]]> godlessguitarmaestro Pleased to Meet You Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:18:08 -0400 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,473,473#msg-473 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,473,473#msg-473 teiara wortham Pleased to Meet You Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:48:35 -0400 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,471,471#msg-471 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,471,471#msg-471
Here it is. As usual the comments with quotations are what the theist said.

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I will respond to the first one and then I will worry about the rest. I really want you to understand how the whole god idea in Christianity doesnt make much sense.

"Tell me, when a farmer plants a seed, is he surprised when he gets a crop? Doubtful, unless he's a very dumb farmer"

That is a very nice analogy, thanks a lot, you just gave me the perfect example to refute your own argument. God is just a retarded farmer lol Sounds pretty catchy.

Lets look at your example and analyze the three main factors I see here. The soil, the seed and the farmer.

Obviously we are the seed, the garden of eden the soil and god is the farmer, and just for humorous purposes and to give life to the story lets say he is from Arkansas.

The soil:

This particular patch of land in Arkansas is filled with supplies that will allow ANY seed to live there forever and ever without having to worry about anything. Its moist, its nurturing and everything. So far so good right?

Well not quite, the soil has also a very bad little worm that the farmer knows about. But we can talk about the farmer later. Lets focus on the worm. This worm is quite a character because it takes seeds that dont know where to go and have never been here before to patch of "bad dirt". Which is obviously bad, the farmer wants the seed to grow strong and become a tree and all that good stuff.

There is a little patch of "bad" dirt that the seed must not come near or absorb any nutrients from. If it does, it will certainly die (wink wink, not really! we just say that to scare the seed though lol). Now, the farmer is quite aware of that patch of soil, he actually put it there, and he is also aware of the worm because... he also put it there.

The seed:

The seed is a poor little creature. It has no arms and legs and it has no fucking clue what its doing. It cannot tell the difference between good dirt and bad dirt because the farmer didn't plant seeds that know these things, the farmer planted seeds that dont know. So the seeds are in quite a pickle here. It supposed to find a good patch of dirt, absorb its nutrients and its nutrients only. If it doesn't do the right thing it wont grow to become a wonderful tree.

The farmer:

This dude is quite funny, he loves to play the banjo and he is really fond of the smell of burning blood... I dont know... ask him but dont hold your breath he is very quiet, he rarely talks back, its like talking to yourself.

This guy picked the seed and he knows everything that the soil has and doesn't have. He knows about the worm, he knows about the patches of "bad" soil and he also knows that the seed i unable to distinguish between the good and evil (I mean bad, sorry) patches of dirt.

He doesn't seem to care though, he still plants the seed in the shitty patch of land and still allows the worms to mingle there when all he has to do to get rid of them is wish them out. Literally.

There is a much more intriguing fact about the farmer though...

This farmer KNOWS a few things that other farmers in Arkansas dont know. This particular farmer has the ability to KNOW everything, past future, present... absolutely everything conceivable.

So what went wrong with our story?

Well the seeds got blamed even though the farmer knew in advance that they would not work and that eventually, the seeds would end up in the wrong patch of soil and that they wouldn't grow into trees. However, the farmer blamed this catastrophe on the seeds! Not on his refusal to take care of the soil by removing the worm and by making sure that the seed was the right seed, and that it would know the difference between good and evil patches (sorry, I meant bad).

Clearly, this farmer from Arkansas is at fault. Is the worm to blame? Not really, the worm did what worms do and the farmer knew this would happen anyways. Is the seed at fault? No, the seed can only go so far and if it doesn't know the difference between good and bad soil anyways. The farmer does though and it did nothing to prevent it and in fact one may say that it took all the steps necessary for catastrophe to happen. He made the recipe for disaster, got the right materials for it and he let the chaos begin. He made the seed, he made the soil and he also made the rules.

The farmer is at fault.

Eventually though the farmer decided that he would take whatever the seeds could give him. Which wasnt much, a pretty ugly weed that smelled weird and looked like a car wreck. The farmer expected a lot from the sad plant and still harvested its fruits which tasted like shit.

The farmer said "This is all your fault! I am expecting much from you and you give me this!?"

The plant kept on trying, and it tried harder and harder every time to provide the farmer with sweet and ripe fruits and all that the little tree could give was nausea and embarrassment.

Eventually the farmer said "I shall give you another chance to make up for your mistake" even though the mistake was his.

He said that the only way to make things right was to cut himself, drain some of his blood in a cup, mix it up with urine, drink half of that and then cut a slit in his penis and pour the other half in there so it gets infected.

When asked how the hell that was supposed to improve his crops he said he had been thinking about it for a while and he really couldn't come up with a better solution. Everybody wonders why since he is the best farmer in all of Arkansas.

SO the farmer asks the ugly plants to try to give him fruit worthy of his palate.

Eventually there will come a time where the farmer will decide which fruits are good enough to be eaten. However his method for determining which fruit deserves to be eaten and which one doesnt is very weird.

He doesnt really care about the taste or how ripe they are. No, what matters most to him is which fruits look more like him and which ones smell more like his blood and urine mix. The fruit may as well taste like shit, and be years away from being ripe and ready to eat, but if it looks like him, and it if smells like him he wont care.

Which is why, if its made in Arkansas, I won't eat it.

So why is god stupid?

He knew in advance what Adam and Eve were going to do, what the tree would be used for if he put it there and what the snake would end up doing.

He KNEW that Adam and Eve would be unable to fulfill his request, and he knew why too.

How are Adam and Eve to blame when they are nothing but puppets in this story? God put them there without the knowledge of good and evil, god placed the tree (that contained something VITAL for them, how the fuck are they supposed to know that listening to god is good and listening to the snake is bad?).

God is to blame for everything if the account in genesis is to be believed. The crucifixion? That heroic suicide mission? Yea that is also his fault because everything eventually goes back to the very begining and we find that if god had taken a little time to make sure that adam and eve were in a good position to make informed decisions this woudlnt have happened in the first place.

God DID know in advance right? He could have done something to stop it or at least make it harder for them to fuck up, right? If he didnt know then god is not omniscient.

If he did know and still went on with it... why the hell would you worship him such a being that allows things like these to happen?

God is to blame for all this, for original sin, for the crucifixion for all the big things that christianity is based on. And besides.. most people accept the fact that the story in genesis is not really a true story. So god killed himself to himself to forgive us for something that never happened in the first place.


What do you think?]]> godlessguitarmaestro Pleased to Meet You Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:46:20 -0400 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,463,463#msg-463 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,463,463#msg-463 our father has kept food in my mouth close on my back and shoes on my foot.
i'm proud to say even when i did'nt listen to him he still was there and still is here.]]> teiara wortham Pleased to Meet You Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:43:34 -0400 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,449,449#msg-449 http://godspace.com//read.php?15,449,449#msg-449 Occupation: Pastoral Counselor
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